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Placing 2 bets before kick off:
First bet: Laying 0-0 half time result
Second bet is backing 0-0 full time

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Third bet introduce during halftime is over 0.5 fulltime

If the first bet loses a third bet is placed during half time and an adjustment of the second bet may be needed.

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The 2 bets are backing 0-0 full time and the one you introduce during halftime is over 0.5 fulltime. odds of 0-0 full time should be 18 or above and odds of laying 0-0 half time should be 0.27 or above. odds of 0.5 fulltime should be 0.15 or above.
e.g you lay 0-0 halftime with 100 which pays a profit of 27. you back 0-0 fulltime with 20 which pays a profit of 360.
halftime the odds of 0-0 correct score will drop to 10 or above that. so here you will need an adjustment amount of 200 which will pay a profit of 2000 or above that. then you place a a bet of over 0.5 fulltime with R2300, on odds of 0,15 or above that.

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1st bet is Lay 0 – 0 at Half Time


2nd bet is Over 1.5 goals in Total

 

The 3rd bet is placed only if the 1st bet is lost on half time and is Lay 0 – 0 at Full Time.

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I meant matches with overwhelming Under/Over 2.5 odds... So if a match is 0-0 at half-time and before the match the over 2.5 goals was say 1/2 what would the Over 0.5 goals odds be at half time? Similarly what would the Over 0.5 goals odds be at the half time of a match where the odds for over 2.5 goals before the match were 6/4?

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Bet 1 lay 0-0 HT (prefer odds lower than about 3.5) Bet 2 back 0-0 FT (prefer odds higher than 12.5) Not 0-0 at half time, you win, congrats ! 0-0 at half time : lay 0-0 FT to reduce your loss if a goal comes (the odds at halve time are not good enough to green up staying 0-0 FT and not being 0-0. They are about 4.5, they need to be around 3) What about laying the draw at about 2.5 , backing the 1-1 at about 7.5 and backing over 2.5 goals at about 5.5 , dutch these.

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at half time the 0-0 FT is still alive, but a goal in the first 15 minutes of the second half would bust you ( at about 15 minutes in the second half you could get an odd of around 3 for the laying of 0-0 and green up totally. Could it be that simple ? :) ). So 1) you should green up the non 0-0 FT score, that would red up the 0-0 FT score. Bet 3 should correct that. 2) Limit your losses on the non 0-0 FT score, keeping a bit of profit on the 0-0 FT score (around 25% profit) , bet 3 (combo) should have you green up the non 0-0 FT.

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Bet 1 lay 0-0 HT (prefer odds lower than about 3.5) stake 10 Bet 2 back 0-0 FT (prefer odds higher than 12.5) stake 8.8 Not 0-0 at half time, you win, congrats ! 0-0 at half time : Lay 0-0 FT to reduce your loss if a goal comes (the odds at halve time are not good enough to green up staying 0-0 FT and not being 0-0. They are about 4.5, they need to be around 3) -> Take the odds for Lay 0-0 FT at half time, probably around 4 - 4.5, stake 27 this will result in a max loss of about 3. To counter risk of the goal back the 1-1 FT at around 10, stake 10 IF a goal is scored the 1-1 FT will drop, depending on the drop (could be around 4 mayby even lower), theN lay the 1-1 FT to green ou

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What we know is that 2 bets are placed pre-KO, with Bet 3 being placed in-play if it's needed. If there's a first half goal, no further bets are placed. Bet 1 is lay the HT 0-0. If there's no first half goal, Bet 2 must be "adjusted" and placing BET 3 ensures profits whatever the result. The exact timings of these bets is unknown. We initially looked at Bet 2 being Back the FT 0-0. With correct staking we will win if there's a first half goal (ie Bet 3 isn't needed). If however it's 0-0 at HT, Bet 1 has lost but the price of the FT 0-0 is falling so we can trade out Bet 2 by laying the FT 0-0 to green up, but this only works after about 60mins, so for the first 15mins of the 2nd half we are vulnerable to a goal. We couldn't find Bet 3 (which Slicer said in a private email could be a combination of 2 or more bets placed at the same time). Slicer said the POI isn't huge but it's still positive: 12% if there's a first half goal, 8% otherwise, after commission. He also said it would have worked for all the previous season's PRemiership games (he backtested the results, though not the inplay odds), though when actually betting he was careful to choose games with "favourable" odds

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we need to look for a market that will drop during the time it stays 0-0 ... ? Under 2,5 goals will be around 1.15ish, lay that together with the lay for 0-0 FT to compensate the losses as stated earlier. When it stays 0-0 FT with the correct stakes you should have a profit. When a goal is scored, the under 2.5 goals will rise with each goal (1 goal to 1.50 , next goal to 2.2) . Back that for greening up.. I'm using the Portuguese Soccer/Superliga/Fixtures 14 February /Braga v Maritimo game (via http://data.betfair.com) for reference (1-0 at 51ste minute, 1-1 61ste minute and 2-1 later on I believe) Also for a 0-0 FT reference Portuguese Soccer/Superliga/Fixtures 12 February /Pacos Ferreira v Sp Lisbon 

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I meant matches with overwhelming Under/Over 2.5 odds... So if a match is 0-0 at half-time and before the match the over 2.5 goals was say 1/2 what would the Over 0.5 goals odds be at half time? Similarly what would the Over 0.5 goals odds be at the half time of a match where the odds for over 2.5 goals before the match were 6/4?

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If you lay ft 0-0 at half time your net position in all markets will be zero(one bet lost, one bet closed), but you will be showing an overall loss, so any bet or bets you make now that will turn this loss into profit will be a value bet, it should be clear that we don't need to make the first two bets to profit from bet3. If any solution to this problem exists it will be market movements around half time. for example, when the score is 0-0 at half time you can back ft 1-0, in most games staying in the green for around 25-30 minutes. That means free insurance for one goal in the second half.

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Think i might have it right so bet one is lay ht 0-0 so if there is a goal your in profit bet two is back 0-0 ft bet 3 if you need it, and has been posted to adjust bet two so you would lay 0-0 ft as the odds would of dropped but you dont lay it all so you will still be in profit, even what you lost liabilty on bet one. Then with this potential profit you either back correct scores dutching them, or back 1 goal or more after 25 minutes second half

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Do the 0-0 FT odds have to be higher than 15ish ? (or the 0-0HT lay odds lower than 3). Or a combination, with a gap of minimum of 12 points ? - Bet 1 is lay 0-0HT, Bet 2 is back 0-0 FT, with Bet 2 88% (or if you want more profit say 80%) of bet 1. Correct right ? - With the correction of Bet 2 do you still have a profit when it's 0-0 FT (with the assumption you can't green up because the odds are not low enough for 0-0 FT) ? In other words the other outcomes have negative expectation if you don't counter that ? - Is bet 3 to counter the first goal in the second half ? - Is bet 3 to counter the second goal in the second half ? - Do the over/under 1.5 play a part ? - Do the over/under 2.5 play a part ? - Do the over/under 3.5 play a part ? - Do the over/under 4.5 play a part ? - Is bet 3 one bet ? - Is bet 3 a combo ? - Do you wait for the market to move towards you after you place bet 3 to green up later ? - Does a very late goal ruin everything (because the market will not move towards you anymore)?

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You are all forgetting one thing, the team must be clear favourite, what you looking is only odds, match selection is important also, more wins should be at the half time lays, the third bet is coming in play at half time laying the score that you think it would not happen, for example: Do you think San Marino can beat Holland 2-0? I think only in science fiction, so you must lay scores that you think will not happen and making up profits on scores that you think one of them will occur, it is simple this slicer strategy, however this is not 100% strategy it never were 100% strategy this man “slicer” claims it is. BUT ITS NOT because it is not 100% strategy nothing is 100% in football so this slicers method is also not 100%

 

Pick two close teams were their will not be many goals. Laying one of them to win. And then backing the same team to win 1-0 2-1 and 2-0. so the only way you can lose is if the score is 3-0 or more 

 

The Fibonacci

Probably the worlds oldest and greatest staking plan ever, although it was not studied in detail until the 1960's. This plan was named after the mathematical genius Leonardo Fibonacci born in Pisa, Italy in 1170 - 1240. In 1202 he published a series of numbers that he created. This sequence has proved to be an amazing breakthrough in mathematics, botany, astronomy and psychology. It is a simple sequence of numbers where each following number is the sum total of the last two. For example.

1-1-2-3-5-8-13

The next number is of course 21 as 8+13 = 21 and so on. To make this plan work you simply place 1 point on the 1st bet, if that bet loses, then you place a further 1 point on the second bet, if that one again loses, then you add together the last two stakes, in this case 1 + 1 = 2 and use that stake. You continue like this until the bet wins, and then you start again from the beginning.

 

When a game draws at half time 0-0 or 1-1 the liability odds drifts from the start of the game (2-3) odds and when a goal scored the draw odds shifts depending on the time been scored.

The insurance if it remains 0-0 half time back correct score 1-1 if it's 1-1 half time back correct score 2-2. The longer you wait the correct score 1-1 and 2-2 shifts up mean you pay less for insurance only if the score remains the same as from half time.

Cash out when a goal scored in (45-70) mins and in 70 min if no goals I back the 1-1 or 2-2 depending on the half time score for insurance and only cash out after only when the score 2-1 or 1-2 if I have the 1-1 insurance and 3-2 or 2-3 if I have the 2-2 insurance. I lose all the lay the draw liability plus insurance if there are no goals scored in the second half.

I would like to know your feedback on this strategy would it be wiser to get the insurance the same time you lay the draw or wait till its cheaper? 

0-0 half time lay the draw
If a goal scored in (45-70) mins cash out and leave the market
In 70 mins back the correct score 1-1 for insurance
Only cash out if the score in 2-1 or 1-2
No goals lost

1-1 half time lay the draw
If a goal scored in (45-70) mins cash out and leave the market
In 70 mins back the correct score 2-2 for insurance
Only cash out if the score in 3-2 or 2-3
No goals lost
 

https://racingtraders.co.uk/education/trading-articles/laying-the-half-time-score-in-football-matches/

https://www.livetradingfootball.com/index.php/en/2016-03-17-15-11-09/strategies/item/64-vista

http://www.betspot.net/tips-and-betting-strategies

http://www.laythedraw.net/how-to-trade-laying-under-15-and-under-25-goals.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgKqWxxLyc0 Lay the draw

Is this the Holy Grail for football?

1. Back 0-0 in FT correct score market
2. Lay Draw in HT market
3. Back 1-1 in HT correct score market.
4. If 0-0 at HT, green up on FT correct score.

Obviously you need to carefully select matches that have beneficial odds.  I have been able to make a decent profit if the HT draw loses, a smaller profit if 0-0 at HT and stake recovery or slight loss if the match is 1-1 at HT.  The only chance of a total loss, is if the HT result ends 2-2, 3-3 etc which is very rare in the matches I select.

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Yes HT draw is the primary market.   It gives more profit if you ignore the 1-1 HT back, but in most selected matches the odds for this are about 11.0, so I am not sacrificing too much profit to gain an additional saver bet.  A lot of extra profit is gained if 0-0 at HT and can you wait some minutes of the second half before greening.

Careful staking is obviously essential in any strategies of this type as the football markets are usually so efficient.

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One of bets 2 and 3 is guaranteed to lose and any winnings for the match must take into account the amount lost between these bets.

If one balances these two bets by adjusting the stakes on each, it is possible to make bets which will result in no loss between them. The overall strategy is then reduced to backing 0 - 0 at full time. 

 

Strategy explained 

The strategy itself is a very easy strategy to understand but it can become very time consuming especially on a weekend when there are 100s of football matches worldwide. To use the strategy you wait for a match to go in play and wait until the 75th minute of the match and you go to the correct score market and whatever the score is at that current time you click that score to lay and you change the odds you want to lay for to 1.6 this means that if you lay the score for £10 the liability will be £6. The bet doesn't usually match until around the 80th minute of the game it depends on the ability of both teams and the amount bet on the match worldwide. If there is a goal between the 75th and the 80th minute and your bet hasn't been matched leave it as a no bet and DO NOT re place your bet as statistics shown that there are a lot fewer goals if goals had been scored between them 5 minutes. Also do not lay the score if the game is 0 0 as when the majority of games are 0 0 with 10 minutes to go they stay 0 0 also if a team has scored 3 goals do not lay the score as the odds to lay are higher because the option after is any other scored.

 

LTD and back 0-0

- The full-time correct score 0 - 0 back odds are >= 12. (You can still profit as long as its >= 7 but your profits are far less)
- The difference between the Home and Away back odds in the full-time match odds market are <= 0.5 apart
- The lay draw odds in the full-time match odds market is <= 4

When the above is true then you can either break even or make a profit when the Home or Away team scores first.

Average profit is between 30% - 50% of stake.
 

 

Lay the draw trading

A more advanced strategy contains both laying and backing. You just lay the draw, but you back  the draw correct scores, starting from 0-0 and going to 1-1 or 2-2. If you’re sure that at least a goal will be scored you can omit backing the 0-0 and claim more profit. In this case you only lose if a 3-3 or 4-4 draw appears with the total profit you can claim being around 10-20% of your stake.

 
 

If you want small consistent profits, lay 0-0 several seconds before HT, but green up as the 2nd half kicks off. HT layers push the price out more often than not.

 
Football/Soccer matches

1. Place a BTL trade on 0-0 in the correct score market.
2. Place a BTL trade on Over 1.5 goals in the goals market.

Now, this is not a dead cert or ARB. But when the odds allow in both markets then the following occurs:

- You get to half-time and no goals have been scored. The odds on 1 above will have nearly halved allowing you to cover any loss on 2 above and still make a nice profit.

- A goal gets scored before half time which means 1 above is lost but the odds on 2 above have shrunk enough to cover that loss and still make a nice profit.

However, you will need to research which games to trade on. Ideally the odds on 2 above should be >= 1.4 or so. You will also need to work out what stakes to use on each.
 
Strategy to this using lays on two of the correct score market entries and one on the under/over 3.5 market.
 
Bet against a team

Bet correct scores on that team winning

Use the over goals markets on scores higher than your correct score bets

 

Well, here are my nuggets for under 4.5 trading:
 

  • the big advantage is that you can start the trade by kickoff, and if everything goes well, you can get out 10-15 mintes later with 5-7 ticks profit, and if an early goal is scored, you still have a big margin to minimize loses or even to green up later if game stays low-scored.

  • if 5-7 ticks aren't good enough for you: wait to see if a goal is scored in the first 15 minutes, and if so back under 4.5 right after the goal. you'l enjoy the market over-reaction, throwing the odds up to 1.2-1.6, and lay again later or wait to see if game stays low-scored.

 
 

QUICK SUMMARY:

Bet on over 1,5 goals instead of 2,5

Analyze the games and only the ones predicted for over 2,5 qualify for this strategy

Don't place any bets until the odds for over 1,5 goals reach at least 1,50 or more (we recommend waiting for 40 minutes or the whole first half)

If the goal is scored in the first 60 minutes of the game, you'll be making money if you cash out or you can leave the bet open and wait for another goal. This depends on what you see if you're watching the game. If the goal is hanging in the air - keep it open.

 

 
 

Let's say the 0-0 odds are around 9.2 and the over 1,5 goals are about 1.45. You use 100 units total stake so dutched will be around 86,38 on over 1.5 and 13.62 on 0-0.

If a goal is scored in the first half it is clear that the money you make in the over market covers the loss on the correct score market so no problem there.

 But if the score at half time is 0-0 the odds on the correct score market go down to about 4 while the odds on the over 1,5 goals market go to about 2.55.

So if you close your position on the correct score market you basically win double the stake in that market, in this case around 13,62.

But the loss on the over 1,5 market is a lot more than that.

My question is: if 0-0 at half time do you close the position on the correct score market, take the profit and hope for a goal in order to close the over market in which case a 0-0 final score loses the stake on over 1,5 market? Or do you accept the loss on the selection overall?

 

- No team odds on favourite
- Lay draw odds below 4
- Correct score 0-0 >= 5 x the lay draw odds

What we are looking for is evenly matched teams in the match odds market.

- Lay the draw
- back 0-0 in the correct score market to cover your liability on lay the draw
- When a goal is scored by either team then push 80% of the profit onto Team A and Team B. This will leave a small profit on the draw to cover the amount you have now lost on Correct score 0-0.

 

I run two strategies everyday using automated software on Betfair.

  1. I use a Tipster who I selected from a proofing site and the system is set to automatically take the tip and to place the bet or bets each day if the odds are within certain limits at the start. The system is set so that the bets are placed 30 seconds before the start of the race. I have calculated historically from two years data the MTF (mean time to failure) of the tipster and use this to adjust the bets in a descending pattern, this MTF value is constantly updated so I maximise the amount earned before a horse wins and the cycle starts over.

  2. The second system also runs on Betfair placing a large number of very small bets on every race in the UK and Ireland, again within certain limits but basically betting on the 5th favourite to lose if the odds are above a certain amount. The system places between 50 and 100 bets a day.

Both strategies bring in a useful second income on auto pilot each month.

If you want to learn more about sports betting and how you can make money using it, go to my BLOG, there is a free offer and tutorials explaining the basic of how odds and backing and laying work and how you can make free money.

Could I just say it took me many hours of work and study to start making money from this so unless you are prepared to put in the effort it is not for you.

If you do get really interested and have any questions feel free to message me and I will try and help out.

 

 

The Basics of Dutching

Dutching is considered to be an advanced betting technique, but the basic concept is actually rather simple. This method is used to cover multiple selections and guarantee which selection returns the same amount of wins. When you want to back two or more possible outcomes at different odds but don't favor one odd or the over, this technique can be useful.

It was traditionally associated with horse racing betting. Bettors would use it when they were confident that the winner of race would come from a number of selections, but they couldn't confidently predict which of those selections would win. For example, they might identify three horses as being the best in an eight-horse race. They would use dutching techniques to back all three of those horses and make the same return regardless of which one won.

Now, this technique only works in certain situations, as you have to be able to back all the relevant selections and still have the potential to make a profit. Thankfully there's an easy way to work out whether this is possible. Calculate the implied probability of the odds for each selection, and total them up. If the total is less than 100%, dutching is a viable option. If the total is 100% or more, then it's not.

Recommended Reading

Not familiar with implied probability? You should be! In fact, in order to become a successful sports bettors, you NEED to understand how implied probability works. Please read our article on probability and value to find out everything you need to know.

Although this article is about dutching when soccer betting, we'll use a horse racing example to illustrate the basic concept. This will just make it a little easier to understand, because dutching horse races is very straightforward. Let's imagine that there's a six-horse race, and we've highlighted two horses that we think have the best chances of winning. Since it's difficult to decide which one to back, we choose to back them both. One is at odds of 3.70, and the other is at odds of 2.80.

First things first; we need to calculate the implied probabilities of these odds. We can use the calculation below to find exactly what we need.

1 / Decimal Odds

This will give us an answer between zero and one. Technically, probability should be expressed this way. A probability of zero means something cannot possibly happen, and a probability of one means something will definitely happen. For the purposes of sports betting, however, we typically express probabilities as percentages. So after applying the above calculation, we multiply the answer by 100 to get the appropriate percentage.

Here are the calculations we need to do to get the implied probabilities for the odds of the horses we want to back. Remember, one is at odds of 3.70 and the other is at odds of 2.80.

(1 / 3.70) x 100 = 27.03%

(1 / 2.80) x 100 = 35.71%

Please note; if you don't feel comfortable doing these calculations on your own, you can use our website's very own odds convertor tool that will calculate the implied probably for you automatically. This might be an easier option worth considering.

If we add the two probabilities together we get 62.74%. Well below 100%, so dutching is a viable option. The next step is to calculate the required stakes, so that we get the same return regardless of which horse wins. This is a little more complicated, so we ask that you please use the following formula.

(A / B) x C

A is the implied probability of the relevant selection, B is the total implied probability of all the relevant selections, and C is the total amount we wish to stake. We've already established that the total implied probabilities of the two selections is 62.74%, so we need to use the following calculations to determine our required stakes. We'll assume we want to bet a total of $100 on the race.

(27.03% / 62.74%) x $100 = $43.08

(35.71% / 62.74%) x $100 = $56.92

Based on this we'd stake $43.08 on the horse at odds of 3.70, and $56.92 on the horse at odds of 2.80. As long as one of those two horses wins, we're going to get a return of just under $160. Minus our original stake, we're left with nearly $60 in profit. Of course, we lose the whole $100 if neither of our chosen horses wins.

Dutching still involves risk. It's just about spreading that risk evenly across multiple selections.

This is a very important point, as dutching is sometimes presented as a way to make guaranteed profits. It's not. That's arbitrage betting, which is something else entirely. If you're interested in that, please feel free to read our article that explains arbitrage as a sports betting strategy.

So why use dutching techniques at all then? How does it benefit us when the potential return is equal across multiple selections? While these are fair questions, the answers aren't going to be immediately obvious. In very simple terms, dutching is just another way to bet for value. We use it when backing a single selection isn't the right option for us, or when we want to improve our chances of winning by covering more than one possible outcome.

For example, let's say we're looking at an upcoming soccer game and we feel that one team is better than the other. Although we think they're better, we don't think they're a LOT better. We're confident that they won't lose, but we don't necessarily believe they are going to win either.

We don't have enough confidence in our favored team to just outright back them, since we clearly believe a draw is a distinct possibility. This presents an excellent opportunity for us to dutch two wagers: one on our favored team to win, and one on the draw. Dutching ensures that our risk is spread evenly across both wagers, and we'll get the same return regardless of whether it's a win for our favored team or a draw. We are at risk if our favored team actually loses, but we believe the chances of that happening are relatively slim.

When this type of scenario presents itself, dutching becomes a viable option. Of course, there are many other scenarios where's it appropriate too. We're now going to explain some specific dutching techniques that we like to use, and the kind of scenarios we like to use them in.

Dutching Correct Scores

Dutching correct scores is a very popular soccer dutching strategy. It's also one of the most straightforward. The idea here is simply to cover a selection of the most likely final scores, by placing the necessary correct score wagers.

This strategy is extremely flexible, as you can choose whichever correct scores you think are the most likely. Just make sure that the relevant odds meet the necessary criteria so that there's the potential for profit. It's also wise to check to see if the combined wagers genuinely offer good value, and that dutching is truly more beneficial than just backing a single outcome.

We know of some bettors who used a fixed set of scores for every game. They simply cover five or six of the most common scores, and hope that they make an overall profit based on the law of averages. We prefer to avoid this approach, because there are too many unknowns. We think the better option is to pick which scores to cover based on an assessment of the relevant game. This is what we do, and it works out pretty well for us.

There is, however, one scenario where we use the same set of scores almost every time. In games between two evenly matched teams that both have good defenses, we typically cover the following correct scores.

  • 0-0

  • 1-0

  • 0-1

  • 1-1

Our theory here is that these types of games are likely to be low scoring, and that neither team is likely to score or concede more than a single goal. Chances are high that they'll end up with one of the above four scores as the final result.

Let's see how we would actually apply this strategy in practice. Here are the odds associated with the relevant scores for our hypothetical game.

  • 0-0 – 8.50

  • 1-0 – 6.70

  • 0-1 – 10.00

  • 1-1 – 6.50

After we've determined the implied probabilities, the next step is to make sure they don't add up to more than 100%.

  • 8.50 = 11.8%

  • 6.70 = 14.9%

  • 10.00 = 10%

  • 6.50 = 15.4%

The total here is just over 52%, so clearly it's low enough to proceed. We then need to calculate how much we need to stake on each score to get even profits. If our total stake was $100, the following stakes would be required.

  • 0-0 @ 8.50 - $22.59

  • 1-0 @ 6.70 - $28.66

  • 0-1 @ 10.00 - $19.20

  • 1-1 @ 6.50 - $29.54

Based on this, we'll stand to win just over $90 if one of these scores is correct. That's effectively a 90% return on our total stake of $100, which is the same as placing a single wager at odds of 1.90. The odds for under 2.5 goals on the same game are just 1.65, so dutching is the better option if we're confident that 2-0 or 0-2 are not likely score lines.

Dutching Correct Scores & Both Teams to Score

If we had to pick a favorite soccer dutching strategy, this would be it. While it is a little more complex than the one we just went over, it's still not overly complicated. All we need to do is identify appropriate games and then follow a defined set of wagering rules. We are looking for games that meet the following criteria.

  • 1One team is the clear favorite

  • 2The favorite is unlikely to fail to score

  • 3The favorite is unlikely to score four or more goals AND keep a clean sheet

When we've identified an appropriate game, we then place the following four wagers.

  • 1Favorite to win 1-0

  • 2Favorite to win 2-0

  • 3Favorite to win 3-0

  • 4Both teams to score (BTTS)

The theory here is that even if the favorite fails to win, they're likely to score at least one goal. In that case, the both teams to score wager will win. That wager will also win with a score line of 2-1 or 3-1. Basically, we're covering the most likely outcomes, and even some of the unlikely ones.

Here are the relevant odds from a recent game where we used this strategy.

  • 1-0 – 9.60

  • 2-0 – 10.80

  • 3-0 – 24.00

  • BTTS – 1.80

The total of the relevant probabilities was just under 80%. For a $100 stake spread across the four wagers, our potential return was around $126. This is obviously a low return, but only some very unlikely outcomes would have resulted in us losing. So, in our opinion, this wager does offer value. The favorite ended up winning 2-0, so we won on one of the correct score wagers.

We could, of course, have simply backed the favorite to win. The odds for that wager were 1.40, so the return would have been a little higher, but we would have also been exposed to more risk. Dutching gives us a little extra insurance on some of the other possible outcomes.

Dutching Correct Scores & Over 1.5 Goals

This is another dutching strategy that we prefer to use whenever we get the chance. It offers very low returns, but it's very low risk. Since we hardly ever lose with this strategy, the low returns aren't that big of an issue.

We use this strategy when a game meets the following criteria.

  • 1Both teams are evenly matched

  • 2We marginally favor one team over the other

  • 3Both teams tend to score plenty of goals

Then, we place these three wagers.

  • 1Our favored team to win 1-0

  • 2A 0-0 draw

  • 3Over 1.5 goals

With these wagers, the only outcome that will hurt us is if our favored team loses 1-0. All other outcomes are covered. This is why it's such a low risk strategy. We typically only get around a 5-10% return on our stake, which is decent considering that we win way more often than not.

 

 Pick two close teams were their will not be many goals. Laying one of them to win. And then backing the same team to win 1-0 2-1 and 2-0. so the only way you can lose is if the score is 3-0 or more to the team you havnt layed. What are your opinions on this kind of system? Thanks

 

- Lay the draw
- back 0-0 in the correct score market to cover your liability on lay the draw
- When a goal is scored by either team then push 80% of the profit onto Team A and Team B. This will leave a small profit on the draw to cover the amount you have now lost on Correct score 0-0.

 

Matches where the price of BTTS and Over 2.5 goals are @1.80 or above. Using a £25 stake I enter the market pre-match with the following stakes:

Stake of £10 Backed on BTTS @1.80+
Stake of £10 Backed on over 2.5 goals @1.80+
Stake of £2 Backed on 0-0
Stake of £3 Backed on 1-1

Let the trade run to its conclusion unless the score is 0-0 or 1-0 after 60 minutes.>>>>>>If 0-0 I will green up 0-0 and scratch 1-1 taking a hedged red on over 2.5 goals and BTTS.

If 1-0 I will green up 1-1, scratch (or take a small loss on over 2.5 goals) and red BTTS. Any other score line and we have a trading advantage so can let the trade run until 80 minutes where it can be reassessed. I can either exit the trade or stay in with a probable win on either, 1-1, over 2.5 or BTTS and ideally both Over 2.5 goals and BTTS.

Danger!
The danger positions are;
(a) if there is no goal
(b) or if there are two goals to one side.
If needed I can take out insurance to cover half the stake with a lay of over 0.5 goals will protect us from a 0-0 draw.
A small back of 2-0 and 3-0 at 1-0 will minimise the loss of a 2-0 finish.

 

The Football Trading System

All you need to do is follow through with this football trading system. Simple! So here goes:

1. Go to the Correct Score market and put a £10 stake on 0-0 and note down the odds. You would be looking at odds of between 11 and 16 generally speaking. I wouldn’t go any lower than this.

2. Now go to the Over/Under 0.5 Goals and look at the lay odds of Under 0.5 Goals. Now if they are lower than the 0-0 Correct Score odds then lay straight away.

3. IF THEY ARE NOT: Then enter your own odds. You want to enter 1.0 lower than the odds you used on the correct score market. You can either put a £10 lay bet on this or you can use a trading calculator to spread your profit across all outcomes.

With a £10 stake on both bets, you would profit £10 if the score was 0-0 and you would break even if any goals were scored.

 

 

 

Loss Retrieval Plan

 

Goal scored in the first 9 minutes. Give it a minute after the goal goes in for the market to settle back down. Increase your stake on the under 2.5 goals by 60%. Therefore if your original stake was £50 add another £30. You then need to take up the 1-2, 2-1, 2-2 and either the 3-0 or 0-3 score-lines depending on which team scored, to cover roughly 120% of your under 2.5 goals liability. Using the above example each score-line should show roughly £96 green profit. You must do this quickly because the odds will drop, making retrieval difficult, if a second goal were to go in before you covered the score-lines. If no further goals go in before half-time then you should be able to trade out for a half decent profit or at least a breakeven.


 

Equaliser scored in the first half. We then take up 1-3 and 3-1 score lines and top up existing score lines and also top up the under 2.5 goals so that the under 2.5 goals liability is covered by all the correct score profits and the correct score liability is covered by the under 2.5 profit. It is a matter of balancing up both markets for a break even.

 

Team goes two goals in front. If this happens then we cover the 3-1 score line or the 1-3 score line and we also cover the any other home and or other away depending on which team scored. We also top existing score lines and top up the under 2.5 goals so that the under 2.5 goals liability is covered by all the correct score profits and the correct score liability is covered by the under 2.5 profit. Again we are balancing both markets to ensure that we are not in a loss making position.

 

Goal 3 scored: If this happens we would have lost our under 2.5 goals stake. For most people they would have accepted the loss and taken the hit on their finances however with the loss retrieval plan it’s possible to break even or make a small profit. What you do is cover the remaining scores so that all possible score lines have enough green profit to recover your under 2.5 goals liabilities. Staying two score lines in front is always the right thing to do in a game!

 

Rule 7 Follow the Loss Retrieval Plan if the trade goes against you

 

 

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Am I correct here or have I got my figures wrong!!
just to sum up
lay the draw £200 @ 3.5 (-500)
back the correct score 0-0 £42 @ 13 (+504)
if no goal is scored £4 profit
if a goal is scored back the draw £111.11 @ 5.5 (88.88)-(42)=46.88

 

1 Loser Strategy,
Using this strategy you can Lay several scores in the Correct Score market, or several players in the First Goal Scorer market, and win on every Lay except your FIRST Lay.
If you were Laying the Correct Score Market :-

  • The only way these Lays can lose is if you happen to pick the winning score line with your FIRST Lay.

  • Lay as many score lines as you like.
    The more you Lay, the bigger your profit.

  • Additionally, as with all other Laying strategies that involve more than one Lay, every Lay you make reduces your liabilities.

  • In this case your only liability will be on your First Lay.

  • As you make more Lays, that liability is reduced, and the profit on every other Lay increases.

  • If the match ends with a score that you have not Layed, you will have no payout whatsoever.
    You clean up, winning the total £££ of all your Lays.

  • Remember, your only losing Lay will be on the FIRST score line that you Lay.
    You will win on all the others.

It is exactly the same if you Lay players in the First Goal Scorer Market.
You could also use this spreadsheet to Lay a number of horses in a horse race, golfers in a golf tournament, darts players in a darts competition etc.

1 Loser Strategy using the Correct Score Market as an example.
In a horse race, Bookies may Lay a few runners against the field, but another strategy is to Lay several runners but make only one targeted runner a loser.
With this 1 Loser strategy, we are doing the same thing, but in the Correct Score Market of a football match on Betfair.
We are not Laying the whole field, but just a few of the runners (score lines).

Using this 1 Loser strategy, we win on all score lines except one.
If we stake correctly, we can reduce our liabilities on one targeted score line by laying other score lines.
This is not the same as Laying a single score line.
Using this 1 Loser Strategy :-

  • We have only one score line against us, but with reduced liabilities.

  • All the others are running for us.

  • Any score lines that we don't Lay, are skinners for us - ALL our Lays are successful, and we clean up.

Example.
There are normally 17 score lines including "Any Other Score" that we can Lay.
We could Lay 4 score lines (for example), but only one will make a loss for us.

We Lay our First score line, which could be any one of the 17.
Then we Lay a 2nd score line, a 3rd, and a 4th.
We could carry on laying more score lines if we wish.
These 2nd, 3rd, and 4th Lays reduce our liabilities on our First Lay, just as any normal series of Lays would do, but if we stake correctly :-

  • If the winner does NOT come from the 4 horses (or in this case we don't hit the winning score) that we have layed, we have 4 successful lays, and we clean up, with no payout.

  • If the winner comes from score lines 2, 3, or 4, we make a profit.

  • If our First score line wins, we make a loss, but our liabilities have been reduced by the successful lays on score lines 2, 3 and 4.

Another example.
The shortest priced score line may be 1-0.
You may choose to make that your first Lay, and Lay all other scores up to 2-2.
Providing the game does not end with a score of 1-0, you will make a profit on every other Lay.

  • If the match ends with a score of 0-0, or any score up to 2-2 except 1-0, you are a winner.

  • If the match ends with a score that you have not Layed, you will have no payout whatsoever.
    You clean up, winning the total £££ of all your Lays.

  • You will only lose if the match ends 1-0, but your 1-0 liabilities will have been reduced by your Lays on the other scores up to 2-2.

You may choose some other score for your First Lay such as 3-3, and Lay some other scores, such as 2-2, 2-3, 3-0, 3-1, 3-2.

  • If the match does not end 3-3, but ends with another score that you have Layed 2-2, 2-3, 3-0, 3-1, 3-2, you make a profit on your Lays.

  • If the match ends in a score that you have not Layed, you clean up, winning the total £££ of all your Lays.

  • Your only payout would be on 3-3, but your 3-3 liabilities will have been reduced by your Lays on 2-2, 2-3, 3-0, 3-1, 3-2.

All you need to do to achieve this, is stake correctly.

2 Losers Strategy.
This strategy can be used to lay 2 (or more) score lines to lose.
Once again, we do not Lay the whole field, but a few score lines..
The procedure is exactly the same, but this time, 2 score lines are targeted to lose.

Liabilities on score lines 1 and 2 will be reduced by the additional Lays on score lines 3 upwards.
This strategy of targeting 2 score lines, has 2 advantages, but one additional drawback :-

  • A large slice of liability is reduced on score line 1 by the stake on score line 2.

  • A large slice of liability is reduced on score line 2 by the stake on score line 1.
    This strategy is particularly effective if score lines 1 and 2 are at short odds.

  • The downside is that we have 2 score lines running against us instead of 1.

If the winner does NOT come from the score lines that we have Layed, all our Lays are successful and we clean up, with no payout.
If the winner comes from score lines 4, 5, 6, etc., we still make a profit.
If one of the first 2 score lines wins, we make a loss, but our liabilities have been reduced by the successful lays on the other score lines, particularly score line 1 or score line 2.

This is not the same as just Laying 2 score lines.
We are reducing our liabilities on 2 targeted score lines by laying lesser amounts on additional score lines.

 

http://www.betandlay.co.uk/strategies/Horses.htm

http://www.betandlay.co.uk/strategies/Football.htm#Hedge_Under_1.5_Goals

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IN-PLAY FOOTBALL

Selection Criteria

Under 2.5 = below 2.0

0-0 = Above 11.0

CS Liquidity over £10k

How It Works

The In-play football strategy is a strategy that can be applied to a number of in-play markets but for the purpose of the guide we will concentrate on the Correct Score market.  We will also be using the Geeks Toy with Betfair for images.

The strategy revolves around time and how prices for certain outcomes will gradually reduce as time passes.

As time ticks away the chance of certain outcomes happening increases (odds drop) and by backing and then laying during this time period we hope to lock in small and consistent profits.

On average the 0-0 Correct Score would be odds @10.0+  but the longer the match goes on without a goal the shorter this price will be.  By backing the 0-0 at a point in the game and then laying 0-0 a few moments later we can, as mentioned above,lock in small and consistent profits.

What Happens If There is A Goal before we LAY?

If this happens we would lose 100% of our BACK stake as the 0-0 is no longer possible BUT we have ways of greatly reducing our RISK (or our time in the market where we are susceptible to a goal) which we will explain later.

Normal strategies rely on something happening in the match (e.g. in football we generally need goals to profit from trading) but using this strategy we are looking for the opposite.  We are hoping for nothing to happen while our bets are not matched.

To reduce the RISK and time spent in the market what we do is PLACE OUR LAY BET INTO THE MARKET FIRST (Not at the current LAY ODDS but at least a few ticks less than the current price.  Once the match kicks off we then wait for the odds to approach our LAY ODDS and then place our BACK bet into the market.  We place our BACK bet into the market at 1 tick higher than our LAY bet and only when the liquidity on this price starts to drop.

By placing our LAY bet into the market first we will be higher up the queue to get matched (therefore we spend less time in the market and reducing the risk of a goal while we are open)

By timing our BACK bet correctly we also reduce the time spent in the market and again reduce the risk even further.

See the image below for a match between B Monchengladbach and Hamburg.

Figure-1

By using the Ladder interface on The Geeks Toy we can have a clearer picture of the 0-0 result.  You can see on the image that there is a gap in the odds at 10.5 (there is currently no money in the market to LAY this price).  By placing our LAY bet at 10.5 and to leave in running we know we are at the head of the queue and will be first to be matched at this price (should there be no goals before this price is reached).  I will go ahead and place a £50 lay at 10.5.

See figure 2 below showing my £50 LAY bet now in the market waiting to be matched.

Figure-2

Depending on your bankroll you can place multiple LAYS to fill in the gaps or where there is very little money available e.g. at odds 11.0 there is only £3 so this would also be an option to place your LAY bet.

I will stick to just the 1 lay bet at a time for the purpose of the guide.

Having placed our 1st LAY bet we now wait for the match to kick off.  It is recommended to be watching the game although not essential as we are only hoping to be in the market for very short periods.

As the price on 0-0 begins to drop we are waiting for the LAY price to reach our LAY BET + 1 TICK (e.g. as we have placed our LAY bet at 10.5, +1 tick = odds 11.0).  When the current LAY odds reach 11.0 we then wait for this price to start dropping and as it drops to around £100 we then place our BACK BET (using the same stake as our LAY bet) at the prince of 11.0 (1 tick higher than our LAY bet).  Therefore I will be placing a BACK bet of £50 at odds 11.0.

Scenarios

  1. A goal is scored before our getting close to our LAY Price and no bets have been matched.

    1. If this happens we simply switch our attention to the current score and follow the same procedure

  2. Our LAY price is getting closer to be matched and using the guide above we now place our BACK bet into the market and both our BACK and LAY bets are matched :-).

    1. This gives us £25 green on the 0-0 scoreline.  We then hedge this potential profit across all scores for a profit of @£2.27 (@4.5% profit from £50 stake) and then place an additional LAY bet on the current score and start the process again where we see a gap or low amounts waiting.

  3. Your LAY bet is being matched but your BACK bet is not.

    1. If this happens as we are at the head of the queue there is no panic.  You can easily exit the trade by BACKING to the same stake and odds as the LAY bet and cancelling your initial BACK bet and then start the process again.

  4. A goal is scored after your BACK bet was matched but before you lay was matched!!  This should be very, very infrequent (@1-2% max of the time).  If this happens you have lost your stake and you start the process again on the current score.

Depending on your available funds you should be looking at placing anything from 5 bets upwards (across the whole match) and profits of 20%+ (if you have the bank then profits of 100%+ can easily be achieved when placing multiple LAY bets at the same time and just waiting for the price to drop to start BACKING them off.

This method (as stated earlier on in the guide) can be applied to many markets.  For example the Under 1.5/2.5/3.5/4.5 markets, Half-Time score markets etc.  Give it a go and if you have any questions please get in touch.

 
 

Correct Score: 0-0/1-1

Correct Score: 0-0/1-1

  – Both teams as close in the odds as possible
  – 0-0 correct score 12s or higher
  – 1-1 correct score 7.2 o higher
  – 1-0 and 0-1 correct score prices as close together as possible (within 1-2 ticks)

Pre-Game:
  – Back the 0-0 for 1 unit
  – Back the 1-1 for 5 units

In-Play:
  – As long as there is no goal, do nothing; you will break even on the 0-0
  – After the first goal, wait a couple of minutes for the markets to settle, then trade out of the 1-1
  – Regardless of a goal or not, be sure to be out of all positions by HT


  – Note that if the first goal is an early goal (within first 5-10 mins), the 1-1 will actually go up, so you may have to take a loss, unless you want to wait for the 1-1 to come down (which can be about 20 mins)

Staking:
  – No more than 10% of bank
  – To figure out proper staking levels, take the total amount you are willing to risk and multiple is by 1/6 to get your "1 unit" and place this amount on the 0-0.  Place the rest on the 1-1.  By way of example, you want to risk no more than $30, so 1 unit would be:  $30 x (1/6) = $5.  So $5 would be put on 0-0 and $25 on 1-1.

Advanced Strategies and Variations:
(Can be added individually to the basic strategy or in conjunction with each other)
  1.) Cover the Any Unquoted ("AUQ") with a small amount to provide a bit of cover in the event of an early goal
  2.) In the event of an early goal, instead of trading out for a loss or waiting for the 1-1 price to come down, you can start to cover some of the other scores, thinking 2 goals ahead (if score is 1-0, cover 2-0, 2-1, 1-2, 3-0, 3-1).  As goals go in, lay off some of the higher score lines you
have covered, and if necessary start backing additional score lines.  This is a *very* advanced strategy and not recommended for beginners.

 
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I look at the last 5 games and I want to see:

Home team 4 out of 5 games over 1.5 goals

Away team 4 out of 5 games over 1.5 goals

Average goal time

Average total goals per game 3 or greater.

 

What if you lay the draw on below 5 odds ( match has to have solid favourite ).Before match starts back H-T 0-0.
If 0-0 at H-T you will your win H-T correct score, back and trade draw for loss.Hopefully your correct score win would outweigh losses.
If favourite scores, odds should double to cover losses on H-T correct score stake.
Only downside is outsider scoring first, the draw odds will not move enough to cover loss on H-T 0-0 stake.
How often do outsiders score first in first 45 minutes?

 

Re: Football Cash Generator I have heard about this system also. I haven't got it but I think it goes along the lines of getting involved in a match were the home team are fancied to win and are priced around 8/11.

You have to lay the draw which must be under 3.75 for that specific game.

You simply need to hope the home team score first and if they do then the draw drifts out to around 5.50 and you back it for the same amount you laid it for.

This then means you are in a no lose situation.

If the home team win then you pocket about Β£6 (Β£20 stakes) but if it finishes a draw you pocket around Β£14 (Β£20 stakes).